A century and a half after the Southern States seceded from the United States over the election of Northern Republican Abraham Lincoln a stark political difference remains apparent and is based on almost exactly the same geographic and cultural divides. In the 2012 US presidential race polling data shows that once again the North and South will face off against each other. The North will be aided by the Left Coast while the South and many of the Rocky Mountain and Western Plains States will join forces. This is despite massive demographic change in the form of a flood of Third World immigrants into the South (since the US opened up its border in 1965) and millions of Northern retirees settling in the Southern Atlantic States. In fact, the only Southern States (apart from Maryland and Delaware which still have Southern pockets but have been largely swamped with non-Southerners) which have any chance of voting along with the North are Florida and Virginia, two of the States most radically altered culturally and politically by Northern and foreign immigration. In vast areas of those States (and others such as North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Texas, etc) Southern people and culture has been largely replaced. It’s interesting to note though that despite this demographic deluge, the South still remains different.
Nate Silver’s article for The New York Times includes a map with State by State predictions of the 2012 US presidential race based on the latest polling data. The map is included below. Compare it to the 1860 map and notice that despite everything thrown against it since then as a conquered land subject to US demographic and social manipulation, the South remains different.
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Note that Virginia, Florida, and North Carolina (the states most notorious for Yankee immigration) are the only states where Romney is even close to losing.
*reads the article again*
*sees it mentioned in the article*
Mea culpa.
Florida will more thank likely go for Romney…I have only seen one yard sign that has Obama’s name on it, but all of the rest (and I travel the whole state in my business) are Romney. Even in “Soviet Socialist Republics of Palm Beach and Broward” are hotly contested, although I think, like I said, Romney will prevail.
Of the three, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida, North Carolina will most definitely go for Romney.
My opinion, but I think over the last 20 or so years, Yankees that have re-located to the Southern States are more than likely conservative and are more prone to assimilate (more or less) to the culture than the liberal Yankees.
Just for the record, I am painting with a broad brush. There are some conservative Yanks that are the annoying “better up north” Yanks, which I always offer to help them go back there if they think it’s so much better. Usually it shuts them up.
I’m voting Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party. He’s the only pro-life candidate running.
Is it too late to find a true secessionist candidate to write in? How about it Michael? Interested?
All – if you value the True Confederacy you need to start in your county, state legislative bodies.
Remember the United States up to 1860 were a confederation of sovereign States united under a compact that gave certain powers to a delegation of the sovereign States and a president, which were elected by the electoral college designated by the sovereign States.
Note the word “sovereign”. We (myself included) are so brainwashed into thinking the CSA was a nation in the same mold of the USA…but it wasn’t.
As Michael has said, the true nationalists were not in the CSA elected offices as they were considered by the moderates as too extreme. My guess is that if the people of the Southern States had a crystal ball and saw the USA of the 20th and early 21st centuries, the Fire Eaters would have won the day in 1860 in the respective sovereign States.
Work on freeing your county from the federal grip.
Work on freeing your “state” from the federal grip and re-establish your “State”.
That’s how you free Dixie. We don’t want a homogeneous country, we want our Confederation back. If you want homogeneous, move to New York or Michigan.
Deo Vindice!
Well said, sir. I have determined that I will begin work in our small area of North Central Florida to attempt to move Florida towards the goal of independence from “the Union”. Any help and advice will be gratefully, and graciously, accepted.
tonyj
TonyJ, the only advice I would offer is to focus on your immediate area. You can’t really control what happens at the state level or in the big cities. However, you can influence your immediate area. You can help change the cultural climate there. That is what I would focus on.
Yes, that’s my goal. We live in a rural part of the state, south of Palatka and north of the Orlando mess. The area is made up of partially of folks who have lived here most of their lives, or moved away then came back to the country. The other portion of the population is snowbirds who won’t fly back north. But we will grow where we’re planted.
DV!
tonyj
Virgil Goode was interviewed on Missouri Freedom Radio on October 30, and expressed the thought that a lot of old-line democrats in Southern Virginia might lend their vote to him. So that might tip some of the balance at least in Virginia. If you haven’t already, Mr. Goode is very much against illegal and the reduction of legal immigration. See the interview at: http://missouritenth.com/2012/10/31/missouri-freedom-radio-the-goode-the-bad-and-the-ugly/
This my sound crazy, But I think it would be better to kick the Yankee states out of the Union. They could establish their new capital in NYC. It is, de facto, already.
There is no way that could be done politically. It’s much easier to imagine the Republicans in Texas worried about living under permanent Democratic rule seceding. Secession is simple. One State can do it. It doesn’t require all the States acting together. And beyond that, we don’t wish to keep the US Federal Government. We want to get rid of it.